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boonemcbride's avatar

30:29 “if pakistan is Bogdan in a war with india”

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amin's avatar

Other than the hilariously dumb Indian propaganda, WHAT evidence do you have that Pakistan actual carried our that so called "terrorist attack?" Why do you parrot the clearly contrived Jewish/Hindu propaganda so easily when it's against Muslims?

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Dmitriy Kalyagin's avatar

Because throughout the last 30-40 years there have been several Islamic extremist organizations present in the area.

And yes, we can say assuredly that radical Sunni extremist includes twisted idea of a ‘jihad’ against innocent civilians, as seen in so many countries around the world (including the Russian Federation). This includes commonly known terror tactics such as hostage kidnapping & suicide bombing.

Unfortunately, since the 1979 Iranian Shia Revolution there has been a huge resurgence & conflation of ‘liberation movements’ with neo-Jihadi religious zealotry.

A good example of the Islamic extremist groups involved is shown here (on the Pakistani side):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurgency_in_Jammu_and_Kashmir

But I’m sure you know all of this already.

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amin's avatar

Do you not realize that many of extremist groups are actually funded by the west and/or are just modules of ZOG?

I am a practising Sunni Muslim, I have been studying jurisprudence and am familiar with the 4 schools of though (Maliki, Hanbali, Shafi'i, and Hanafi), and I can tell you, nowhere does it state we are allowed to carry out "jihad against innocent civilians."

For hundreds of years Muslims, Jews, Christians and many others were able to live in relative peace and harmony across the Middle East, Asia, and North Africa. That is until outside interference from the likes of the Mongols and Christian/Zionist Crusaders came to terrorize and slaughter millions of innocent people. Absolutely barbaric and merciless sub-human behaviour.

I agree there are many mischievous groups out there and especially among the fragmented Ummah, but to us Muslims it is very clear what's going on because it's the same dam thing that's been happening for hundreds of years.

Honestly I really enjoy listening to u both because as a Muslim I find it interesting to understand your perspectives and how you knit current events with your eschatological beliefs. I'm not trying to patronize you here, but i find it cute, not in a gay sense, but like watching my little brother figure something out whilst knowing he's still way off.

That being said you both are clearly intelligent, virtuous fellows which I respect immensely.

But please for the love of the one true GOD, stop becoming tobacco chewing hillbillies whenever it's another "Muslim terrorist attack", keep your thinking caps on for a second and realize that there's something else at play here. Subversion runs deep and it takes different forms in different nations.

We are living in the era of the shadow of the antichrist after all, that we can both agree, and at the very least we know there's going to be alot of deception. We seem to be able to spot it with other things, but for darkies over there, we keep our red, blue, and white tinted glasses on

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Travis Osburn's avatar

It is definitely clear that the Moscow patriarchy is correct in nearly everything it is done and it's ecclesiological matters especially with the support of the Jerusalem patriarchy which is probably the first ever patriarch get.(What I mean by this is it's the first Christian community established by Christ) Even though it's not first among equals like New Rome otherwise known as EP. It's still holds a lot of value. Who it supports in these ecclesiological matters. I am really hopeful that before patriarch Bartholomew leaves us. That there is some sort of reconciliation between him and Moscow. Unfortunately I just think EP is too stubborn when it comes to this issue. And I pray that whoever they get to replace the EP. Is able to actually have official dialogues within Moscow. All I know is depending on the person who does replace the EP it could either get 10 times worse or it could get a lot better. And it's great to hear more Orthodox unity. We need to be united. Especially when it comes to fighting the Antichrist that are trying to infiltrate the holy Orthodox Church. We as a church are finally getting back on our feet after so long of just being defeated over and over and over again first with the conquering of Constantinople by the Turks and then the brutal regime of the Soviets over the third Rome. And now the brutal persecution that is happening within Ukraine and elsewhere. We definitely need more unity. So we can fight off the heresies that are infiltrating our church like ecumenism. I saw something from one of my Catholic friends that the EP congratulated Cope Leo the 14th on his pontificate and on his ascendants to the pope of Rome and that the EP officially you know agrees to this. It's a very weird message and it can be taken way out of line by the ecumenist. One of my capital friend literally said I was a papist because I am in a Greek church and we recognize the Pope and it just sucks. I love the EP patriot Bartholomew has done a great job. Outside of his ecumenism I love patriarch Bartholomew. I think there's a reason why he was elected. And I pray that it is not to his detriment I will continue to pray for him that he does the correct thing. I know that my St paisos of the holy mountain personally congratulated the EP on his ascension when patriarch Bartholomew was introduced as the new ecumenical patriarch. And yeah. Anyway this is gone on a little long so I'll leave this here. If I have anything else to say I'll make another comment. Great episode as always guys love it.

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Travis Osburn's avatar

-Paisios

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